The definitive word for mac's and non-linear editing is www.2-pop.com
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Alex
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The definitive word for mac's and non-linear editing is www.2-pop.com
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Alex
Thanks for the prompt Mac software info guys.
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Well, I've done it both ways, and I'm never cutting film again, unless it's a little tiny projoect.
I did my first cut of Lost Tribes on film, by hand, and it took me something like 9-10 months of evenings and weekends! And I mean almost every weekend, all day long!
This did not include any sound editing!
A feature is a huge project, it's not just splicing a little 3 minute cute little film thing together.
So, I think the real answer to this, is that there are a lot of Super 8 shooters trying to do somewhat professional things with the format, pushing it beyond what it was intended to do, or has been historically used for; just fun fooling around shooting.
SO, it sounds really romantic to cut film, but if you're really doing this for the outcome, and not the process, then you have to do what is most productive, and that's cutting on the computer.
Also, nobody serious projects their Super 8 film, so it's all going to end up on video anyway.
The only justification for cutting S8 on film, is to gain quality by losing one generation of degradation in the process, which is why I did it.
It was for nothing, though, because I ended up having to re-cut the movie anyway (on the computer) when it was obvious thatthere were story problems, it was too long, etc.
Matt Pacini
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It's true, S8 was and still is best when acually projected. It always loses so much of its value when transfered- even ranked with the latest in color correction and everything. But it all depends on what you want to do with your film.
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I just do not see the point in using film for transfer to video, except of course its quality, but the big picture cannot be beaten for impact, Imax for example.
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The response was better than i thought. A lot of, I suppose wise, things were said. And i can concede that computer editing would be a powerful advantage for the time pressed, which may be all of us. And if it is to end up on VHS, why not take the advantage of portraying it to the best of ones ability, after all, the super 8 audience is shrinking from what i hear. However, the more time one spends in front of the computer, the less time one is being intellectually and artistically challenged either behind the camera, script, or at the editing table. For example, my girlfreind is an author and she insists on editing on paper, feeling the words. Not cutting and pasting. She beleives that too much time on the computer distances the creator from their creation. Could the preference for computer editing equate to film makers spending more time in front of the monitor, and not looking through the eyepiece? This question may have already been bantered about by generations of purists with the advent of every new technology to emerge, from the motorised camera to the steadicam, yet, was their argument groundless? Are there countless aspects of filming and other arts that can be traded away in place of ease without eventually detracting from the origional intention of what you wanted to portray?
One quote "Honda Goldwing? get a car and be done with it!"
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr Blackstock:
One quote "Honda Goldwing? get a car and be done with it!"
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Yes, but do you get a car for functionality, or for status?
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Alex
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frank Houiellebecq:
I just do not see the point in using film for transfer to video, except of course its quality, but the big picture cannot be beaten for impact, Imax for example.
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Film on video still looks like film.
Video tends to look "live"...film on video looks like a story.
So film has it's advantages both ways.
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Alex
Mr.Blackstock.
If you really want to stick it across computer finished images,and if of course one can afford it,shoot on Super8 colour neg and have a projection print made.That will shake them! You know-just like it is in 'proper' cinema.
Old Uncle Barry
UK
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super8 to video, the perfect independent medium...
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